dont call me a dude..

Who is talking about ideology? You are. Communism is an ideology. I am saying ideologies are useless.

Even if you are not, lots of communist guys are doing that and they believe in that, so strongly that even if it hurts the country’s interests, they will be loyal to the ideology first.

Twenty years of half-baked reforms are not enough. We need comprehensive economic and adminstrative reforms, supported by strong investment in human capital. You talk of land reforms as if that is the universal cure of all ills. In practice we need to do a thousand times more if we need to have any semblance of a povertyless society.

In that direction, the communist governments have done little.You can give random examples from East Asia, America wherever, but when the balance sheet is seen, communist-run states are impoverished and wretched. They can even shine in comparison to some other lame states which have other afflictions- like terrorsim, central neglect, or caste-paranoia, but that does not make them any less decadent.

Clearly our expectations from governments are different. You see land reforms and are pleased, I see people living a life of disease and filth on the streets of Calcutta and am displeased. And from what I have seen in other parts of the state,it is just symbolic of the rot the whole state is in.

Kerala maybe better. It is periodically under Congress too. Also, one would like to see where it is without the gulf money. Anyways if communists are good, they should be good everywhere.

Please dont ascribe imaginary arguments to me and call me ‘totally wrong’. From my point of view you are not only totally, utterly and absolutely wrong but dont even know what you are wrong about. So let us not resort to that kind of imaptient reasoning.

Now – even after twenty years of economic reforms, why is it that we are having almost no growth on job creation? Yeah, wealth is being created but where are the jobs?
How many new jobs are being created to compensate the displaced ones?

I am not talking about ideological warfare. I am not pitting myself against you. Just tell me – what is preventing other political parties from committing to land reforms? Even when everyone knows that it can give an immense boost to the rural poor’s incomes?
How can you close your eyes towards that simple solution?

Your belief that growth is possible only through vast and uninterrupted investments is totally wrong. The structure that this model of growth can create is so fragile. Didn’t we have anything to learn from the East Asian economic crisis? I clearly can’t accept the idea that you just bring in investements and everything will work out itself.

I completely agree with you that we shouldn’t divide oursleves into groups. But if a faction decides to do so and take on matters in their hands, what will you do? And thats why i wanted you to talk about what happened in Nandigram before the police action. Who divided the people in the name of imaginary land acquisition notices? Who scared them in the name of threats to their livelihoods?

” But there are quite a few armchair Communists who now run quite a lucrative set of businesses: a) protection rackets, b) media empires, c) land mafia, d) licensing rackets, e) corruption empires. “

I don’t think jobs in Kerala are dwindling – they are on the rise now. Major IT companies are coming in now. Industrial parks are sprouting up.

And we have serious problems with land and natural resources. Ever taken a trip to Kerala? How much of wasteland or non-agricultural land have you seen? We simply can’t set up giant industrial plants as they will not be sustainable.

The Kerala model is about social conscience – I know that from innumerable personal experiences.
Just one – when I was in high school, a student decided to drop out. A rare thing in Kerala. We send almost all our kids to schools(they might not clear high school – but thats another problem). The pressure from the community made his father get him back to school in two days – i am not talking about any religious, casteist or poilitical community here – everyone in the village irrespective of these divisions chided this person for letting his son drop out.
So, how many places in India have such a social fabric?
In Bangalore i see so many kids in restaurants,its shocking, and all this despite having an IT company in every nook and corner. How long shall we wait for the benefits to trickle down?

And not to mention the social indicators from Kerala. It beats me. None of you want to talk about that. We rival even the US and that too with a pittance when it comes to revenues.

It clearly shows that with people’s participation anything can be achieved. The idea of mob lunacy is simply amazing and i will just laugh it off – for i know that you don’t know what you are talking about.

And about the intimidation theories – i would suggest you to visit Kerala when an election is going on. Bring a satellite OB van too. See and record what happens.

Sidenote: Checkout the following link.
http://www.videothevote.org/
Can you media persons take up such an initiative in India?

1) You are desperately trying to prove that commies and Hitler are the two sides of the same coin – or rather they are brothers in arms when it comes to their ideology. Just because both argue for the need for a strong state, how can they be the same? Using this theory I can argue that all patriots are communists – as they place the nation’s interests above an individual’s. Just forget the whole argument. It doesn’t even exist.
2) PolPot came to power claiming to be a communist. But if he was a real communist he wouldn’t have done what he did. But the Indian communists were always different. The Indian democratic system doesn’t allow anyone to rule over a country just as PolPot did(Yeah, i am not forgetting emeregency, but that wasn’t a creation of commies anyway).
3) I gave you ten links from the google search you wanted me to do. I have posted them here for anyone’s review. Most of them talk about stories which any third rate journalist can create. And you added one more to them.
I can create a thousand web-pages like these describing the anti-communist hunts happening all over the world. They won’t make it true.
BTW the last link you posted talks about AnandMargis – found some authentic reference about them(not the bullshit i found on the posted links).

http://www.tkb.org/Incident.jsp?incID=2400

Read it yourself.

4) If possible try to answer these questions.
a) The scientific rigging theory – did it happen even in the last elections? No. It didn’t and it pours cold water on all theories of goonda raj.
b) What about the political murders which took place in Nadigram before police entered the village?
c) I propose that some miscreants instilled fear on the poor villagers and made them commit crimes, and take control of the village in their own hands. Or else how will you explain the political murders which took place before the police action? How would you explain the failure to hold all party meetings to discuss matters despite the govt’s attempts to do so? How would you explain the fact that all this happened even before any notice for land acquisition was issued?

As a side note : if possible give me a list of companies which closed down in Bengal in the last twenty years, what type of industries were they, what was their scale, what was the major reason that they closed down etc. No generalizations please. I am asking for specific cases and data. I’ll also try to gather the same.
Talk to you soon.